John D Baker, more questions than answers

John D Baker my Great Grandfather

Born Feb 1861 in Illinois

Source; 1900 US Census

1 May 1883 Possible marriage to Louise J Boyd; born about 1865, death ?

Source; Missouri marriage license, Springfield, Greene, Missouri

• Were there two John D Bakers in Springfield area?
  
  

Missouri Marriage Records, 1805-2002

1888 - Marriage to Virginia “Jennie” Shaw 

Source; 1900 US Census which states they have been married 12 years.

4 Jul 1888 birth of Roy H Baker In Greene County, Missouri < my grandfather

26 Jan 1891 - Marriage to Jennie Shaw; born Oct 1869 in Missouri, death ?

Source; Missouri marriage license, Springfield, Greene, Missouri

• Compare this to the census marriage date?

Missouri Marriage Records, 1805-2002

Apr 1892 birth of Harry E Baker in Missouri

Dec 1894 birth of Edith Baker in Missouri

Sep 1898 birth of Ella B Baker in Missouri

Source; 1900 US Census

1902 birth of Mary Baker in Missouri

Source; 1910 US Census

Information from the 1900 Census, census taker was very sloppy...

Enumerated on 4 Jun 1900

Address 1961 Benton Ave, North Campbell Township, Springfield, Mo
(They live very close to the Beckleys, Hazel Opal Beckley appears to be Roy's 1^st? wife)
Head of household

Age 39

John's parents were both born in Iowa

His occupation is Shoemaker

Months not employed 0

He can read, write and speak English

They rent

1900 United States Federal Census, Springfield, Ward 08, District 0044, Greene, Missouri, USA 

By the 1910 Census Jennie is living in Topeka, Kansas married to Charles Smith, birthplace Michigan, parents birthplace, father; New York and mother; Germany, and has three more children; Mary Baker age 8 born in Missouri, Jennie Smith age 3 and Charles Smith age 1, both born in Kansas. John and Jennie's daughter Ella who would have been 12 is not on the census with her mother and step father. Edith and Mary are with Jennie. Roy would have been 22, his whereabouts is unknown. Harry E. would have been 18 and his whereabouts is unknown.

• What happened to Ella?
  
  

1910 United States Federal Census, Topeka, Ward 2, District 0150, Shawnee, Kansas, USA

     

Possible that Roy was either Jennie's or John's (Louise) by another relationship?

I am looking at a DNA connection to Jennie's family that looks very probable.

What happened to John D Baker? Did he die or did he and Jennie divorce?

A genealogy crisis

 Wouldn't this be nice?

Long time... no post. I had a bit *cough* of a genealogy crisis.

Discussing DNA testing within a surname group led to a lady suggesting to me that I had my Grandpa Roy Henry Baker attached to the WRONG parents. I was incensed, shocked, and then I suspected she was right. *sigh*

I did my original research on him when I was just beginning my genealogy addiction. I took what I knew about him, which was not much, and started researching. I knew his name, his birth date and city, and that he had come from a big family.

I found a family on the correct state census that had a son Roy that was born the month and very close to the day of my Grandpa Roy (GR). The family size seemed to fit and even though they lived in the north central part of the state and GR was born in the southern part there was evidence that they had spent time (not much) in the southern town GR was born in. Several family trees on a well known site had GR attached to this family. Looked good to me... so I spent many, many hours researching that family... and I have a lovely tree for that family. The wrong family, Roy Elbert Baker's family.

The lady also pointed me in a direction that she thought might be right. There was a family with a boy named Ray Baker in the town I knew GR to be born in. Long story short, that was the right family. This was proven by sending off for GR's death certificate which listed his parents as the parents Ray Baker was living with. Lessons learned; have some documentation and don't believe other trees. Heck I even knew these things but it seemed so right!

I am so grateful that my mistake was pointed out to me and that the lady took the time to point me in an alternate direction. She was also a sounding board and seemed very interested in helping me find his true family.

There are mysteries in his true family which I will ponder in a later post. Hmmmm... why can't any of this be simple?

Tombstone Tuesday - Thomas Bleauford Springs (T.B.S.) Denby

The big Denby stone in Greenfield Cemetery, Greenfield, Missouri

Thomas Bleauford (Bluford) Springs Denby
My paternal 2nd Great Grandfather

His obituary October 4, 1928

T.B.S. Denby ~ Thos. Blueford S Denby was born in Tennessee on May 21, 1846, and departed this life on September 10, 1928 at the home of his daughter. Mrs. Fred Champlin, in Greenfiel, Missouri; aged 82 years, 4 months and 9 days.

On November25, 1868 he was united in marriage with Esther McMasters. To this union nine children were born, five boys and four girls. Two boys with their mother, preceded him in death. Claud of Pearl Missouri, Denzil D. and Mrs. Fred Champlin of Greenfield, Glenn of Prescott, Arizona, Mrs. Maud Stevenson, Mrs. W.L Hannah and Mrs. C.H. Faucett of Los Angeles survive him. Seventeen grandchildren were his.

In the year 1863 he enlisted in the Civil War, 16th Missouri Cavalry, Co. A, under capt. Hayter and served until the close of the war. At the close of the war he settled in Missouri. He served as a county judge and county collector in Greene County, and was U.S. land commissioner in New Mexico for 17 years. 

The declining years of his life were spent in Dade county. He was a memeber of the Cumberland Presbyterian church, and his trust in God was implicit. He came to the end of his life calmly and serenely, and was loved, honored and respected by his large circle of friends. 

Age had dimmed his memory on earthly things, but as the writer of these lines sat by his side he talked clearly of the eternal world. He rested his hand in his Savior's care and was ready.

He belonged to the Oddfellows who feel that a good member has been taken from the. He was a student of the Bible, which was first with him, and a constant reader of history, science and literature. The long life was filled with good deeds of loving kindness, and his citizenship was a rich heritage to posterity.

We extend sympathy to the family, feeling that they have lost a good father and we a good neighbor.

Funeral services were conducted by Rev. Tom Procter and C.J. Allen at the Champlan home on Tuesday and internment was in Greenfied Cemetery under the auspice of the local I.O.O.F.

Tombstone Tuesday - Esther Missouri McMaster Denby

Esther Missouri McMaster Denby, my paternal 2nd great grandmother 

and the beautiful Denby plot at the Greenfield Cemetery, Greenfield , Missouri.

Her obituary. Reverend C.J. Allen seemed to think a lot of her.

Mrs. T.B.S. Denby ~  Esther McMaster Denby, wife of T.B.S. Denby was born July 2, 1852, At Walnut Grove Missouri, and went to her heavenly home June 10, 1925, after a life spent in loving service to her God and to all with whom she came in contact, being 72 years, 11 months and 8 days of age. She was the mother of nine children, four girls and five boys, two of the boys preceding her to the great beyond, five of those being at her bedside during her last illness. 

Mrs. Denby was conscious until the last, and was surely a "soldier soul", ever thinking of those who cared for her, never mentioning or referring to her own suffering, ever patient and kind to the end. Hers was a life of service to her God, her family, her neighbors and friends. No day passed by that she did not render some kindness to some one. She was converted to Christ and united with the Presbyterian church in her early youth, ever remaining true and faithful, and during her last days hourly repeating beautiful verses of Scripture. Although she suffered intensely, she was quick of thought, ready of expression, sympathetic by nature and fond of companionship. It was hers to be the ideal friend, wife and mother, always cheerful, always brave, always considerate, scattering sunshine and happiness in lives of others, and even now it is hard to think, to say, to believe that she is dead. 

Her loved ones are left with sadness, by with the memory that she was good and true in life and beautiful in death. As the years go by, we may feel and know that her faith must be our faith, her trust our trust, her God our God, and the lesson of death is not sorrow and grief and tears for the dead, but beauty and smiles for the living. Brother and Sister Denby's two sons who were buried near Walnut Grove were brought here and laid to rest beside their mother in Greenfield cemetery. The funeral services were conducted by Rev. C.J. Allen, assisted by Rev. Frazier. The God of all peace strengthen and comfort the hearts of the bereft ones. C.J.Allen 

Her boys Harry and Henry

Thankful Thursday - The power of working in groups

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I belong to a private Facebook group that started out as one thing and has turned into another. It started as a group interested in some commonalities in DNA testing but it has turned into a group of friends. It's a small group of 18 people who are some of the best researchers I know.

Several of the people have blogs, a couple have written books on their family history for family reunions (that is a huge task!) and a couple more are working in that direction. We each have different experience levels and different ways of researching. We are all ages and come from very diverse backgrounds. The common thing among us is our love of genealogy or as some call it family history.

We have solved several mysteries and worked on a couple that have not been solved...yet. Some having to do with our own research and a few that were just something one of us had run across and was curious about... such as a grave marker being sold on Etsy. One of the members posted about the marker pondering if it was ethical to sell and wondered where it come from. We put our virtual heads together using different searching techniques such as looking up the name on Ancestry.com, using Google to look for obituaries, funeral homes, and cemeteries in the area. We discovered where the plaque was from. A phone call was made to the funeral home and contact was made with the cemetery. It was discovered that the lady did have another marker. We still wonder about the ethics of selling a funeral home grave marker online!

Another thing a couple of people worked on was a missing persons/identity case that was in the news. The investigator had turned to autosomal DNA testing to try to solve the case but was not using the full power of the science. The investigator was contacted and given help on ways to utilize the information he had. That case is still being worked on.

A few personal family mysteries have been solved by working as a group and I'm sure more will be brought up and worked on. I have a few things I could throw at the group such as; Who is the father of George Washington Baker? That ought to be a fun one to try to figure out! It is such a common name.

The power of working in a group draws on the strengths of individuates working for a common goal. That is very powerful and I value this group of friends very much! You know who you are and thank you for being you, you are golden!

Tombstone Tuesday - Posey Reed McDaniel

Posey Reed McDaniel my maternal Great Grandfather

Posey Reed McDaniel was born in Young County, Texas on March  31, 1890. He was the first child of Robert Lee McDaniel and Ritte Jane (Otts), who would later give him 8 known brothers and sisters. The 1900 US Census finds him in Justice Precinct 3, Stephens County, Texas with his parents and sisters Ella, Stella, and Nevada. His father is listed as a farmer, they rent their home, and both of his parents can read and write.

On December 29, 1908 he married Dora Isabell Dawson in Clarksville, Red River County, Texas. I have not been able to find them in the 1910 Census. In 1917 his draft registration shows them living in Eldorado, Jackson County, Oklahoma. They are still living there in the 1920 Census and have four children Edith, Sidney, Nicebell, and my Grandma Vera. Posey's occupation is listed as general farming.  On September 30, 1925 they had another daughter, Lena Eudean Evelyn, who was born in Pleasant Hills Oklahoma and died at 18 days old according to family records.

By 1930 the family is living in Armstrong County, Texas and added two more daughters to the family Gertrude, and Georgia. Posey is listed as a cotton farmer which is what my Grandma remembered the family doing as she grew up. In 1937 they were living in Amarillo and he was an auto mechanic according to the city directory.

Sometime between 1937 and 1939 they moved to Grand Junction, Colorado because he shows up there in a city directory in 1939. The 1940 US Census listed them as living in Orchard Mesa, Mesa County, Colorado with only Georgia living at home but Posey's mother Rittie is living with them as well. In 1941 they are listed in the Grand Junction City Directory again. By 1945 they are back in Amarillo, Texas and they are both working at McCartt Supermarket, him as a Porter and Dora as a Baker according to yet another city directory.

In about 1947 they moved to Southern California where they lived for many years before returning to Colorado. Posey Reed McDaniel died on May 27, 1973 and is buried in Fruita Elmwood Cemetery in Appleton, Mesa County, Colorado.

Tombstone Tuesday - Cave Springs Memorial Church Cemetery

I have a bunch of family buried here.....

Cave Springs Memorial Church Cemetery also known as 

Mt. Zion Presbyterian Church

Listed as a Greene County Missouri Historic 
SiteCounty registration date: Nov. 2, 1981
The Mt. Zion Presbyterian Church, now Cave Springs Community Church and Cemetery, has important connections to the early history of Greene County. Built in 1867, the building marks the site of an earlier log chapel and still earlier brush arbor, where one of the earliest churches in Greene County was organized in October of 1839. The present large two-story white frame structure with a bell tower had long served as a church, a school, and a community meeting place. It is the oldest Presbyterian Church west of the Mississippi.

See that mess of foliage and the surrounding stones? That's where most of them are buried. 

My ancestors buried there (the red are direct line, the burgundy are direct line with links);

Joseph Pollack - b. Oct. 30, 1842 d. Dec. 13, 1905 Adele’s father

Bettie (Martha Elizabeth Skeen) Pollack - b. Oct. 11, 1845 d. Sep. 24, 1923 Adele’s mother

Children of Bettie and Joseph (eight of their eleven known children) ;

Gay (Gabriel) Pollack m - b. Mar. 25, 1867 d. Jan. 23, 1888 

Adele Pollack Denby - b. 1871 d. 1948 Jo Helen Denby Baker’s mother

Joseph Pollack  - b. Oct. 17, 1872 d. Oct. 25, 1875

Calvin J Pollack  - b. Sep. 6, 1874 d. Feb. 1, 1955

    Nellie E Darraugh Pollack - b. Nov. 26, 1876 d. Oct. 26, 1936 Calvin J Pollack’s wife

Marvin Pollack  - b. Apr. 22, 1879 d. Aug. 17, 1962

    Virginia Barrow Pollack - b. Sep. 25, 1882 d. Sep. 14, 1979 Marvin Pollack’s wife

        Carl Marvin Pollack - b. Oct. 24, 1916 d. Apr. 18, 1930 Marvin & Virginia’s son

        Roscoe Pollack - b. Nov. 2, 1902 d. Nov. 27, 1918 Marvin & Virginia’s son

Florence Pollack (infant)  - b. Mar. 26, 1880 d. Jul. 12, 1882

Carl Pollack (infant)  - b. Jul. 27, 1884 d. Mar. 18, 1885

Juanita Z McNew Pollack - b. 1879 d. 1921 Wife of Ransom Harris Pollack, his burial place unknown

Helen J Pollack Carden – b. Aug. 24, 1891 d. Jan 4. 1966

    George A. Carden – b. Jan. 31, 1888 d. May 2, 1972 Helen J Pollack’s husband

Hope H Skeen - b. Feb. 16, 1807 d. Aug. 4, 1875 Bettie’s father

Delinda Harris Skeen - b. Aug. 17, 1809 d. Aug. 1, 1882 Bettie’s mother

Bettie (Martha Elizabeth Skeen) Pollack’s sibling;

R. (Ransom) H. (Harris) Skeen - b. May 10, 1835 d. Dec. 4, 1917

    Louisa E McClure Skeen - b. Nov. 4, 1837 d. Sep. 5, 1871

        William H Skeen (infant) - b. Aug. 28, 1871 d. Aug. 28, 1871 

Mary L Ross Skeen - b. Oct. 17, 1842 d. May 30, 1915 Ransom’s 2nd wife

I'm still digging through the names of people buried there and I'm sure I will find more connections.